Thursday, June 14, 2007

Determinism versus Choice

This post was originally published on http://www.silentyak.com in response to the previous post on this blog.

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Talk to someone about quantum mechanics for a while, and sooner or later, the question of deterministic behavior versus free will pops up. It is like one of those arguments between religion and science; it cannot be resolved because, for one thing, no one knows the answer. Oh sure, you may say you know the answer, because it is so obvious, but you should realize the other side is just as convinced that they have seen the light.

This may seem paradoxical, but there is a good reason for it. Imagine that you are talking to someone who strongly believes in free will. If you ask him to explain exactly why he thinks this is so, he may say, "Look, when I feel thirsty, I might actually get up and drink some water - or I may not. No one could possibly claim to predict what I will do the next time I feel thirsty. Therefore, I have free will." The non-believer would say that his action was the result of a complex set of interactions between molecules that ultimately resulted in his decision. To this, our subject would respond that it was he, in fact, who brought about the interaction between molecules that resulted in his decision. Quantum mechanics ensures that this claim cannot be lightly brushed aside. No matter how closely we look into this situation, we will never be able to eliminate the existence of his choice as long as he exists. Without the doer of action possessing free will, all of this would be reduced to the interplay between molecules in a very large box called the Universe. It still may not be deterministic if the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is to be believed, but in this probabilistic universe, there would be no one throwing the dice.

So in essence we are trying to decide whether true intelligent agents exist or not. We could invoke God, and claim that God controls all individuals and therefore, God is the only intelligent agent. This doesn't really affect our argument, because if we decided that a single God did not exist, we could delegate that job to individuals themselves. We would then be trying to decide whether billions of Gods exist. Instead we will assume that if one human being exhibits free will, then so does everyone else. We will be content with arguing about the existence of at least one intelligent agent rather than worrying about the details.

Having said all that, I hope you see that this is not a solvable problem. It is impossible to prove the existence of an intelligent agent because there could always be hidden deterministic variables that guide the 'free will' of the agent. You would have to be God (with absolute knowledge) to conclusively state that there are no deterministic causes for your actions.

At the same time, it is impossible to disprove the existence of an intelligent agent, simply because one can always present an intelligent agent as the seen or unseen cause of any event. As before, you would need to be God (with absolute knowledge) before you could claim that there is no intelligent agent.

I submit that there cannot be a God with absolute knowledge simply because there is no way of knowing that one's knowledge is absolute. As God, how can you be sure that there is no God above you?

Now, why did we translate a nicely stated problem of free will into another that cannot even be solved? Primarily because if you cannot solve this problem, it follows that you cannot solve the original one. The conclusion is that people who tend to disagree on the subject of freedom of choice, will, unfortunately, continue to disagree.

At this juncture, there will be some who will claim that this could be a problem that has a solution, even though we are not in a position to find it. This statement looks suspiciously like the one made by new-comers to quantum theory when they are told that Schröndinger's cat is neither alive nor dead until the box is opened. Maybe a quantum theory of God will emerge that could give us the probability of the existence of God at any point of time. Stay tuned until then.

2 comments:

Dhara said...

nicely written, but sir, you forget that the original post was on the need for 'finding a place for free will in our contemporary world view'.

it assumes free will as given, and just questions science's limited ability to 'account for' free will. valid assumption in my opinion, since it is one of the basic tenets of our society - crime, punishment, achievement, success, failure, accountability - all would be meaningless without this assumption.

casual.dodo said...

Dhara, your post raises more questions about the existence of free will, as opposed to its place in our world view. It does not assume free will as given by science, only by society. If the social aspect were the only one to be considered, then we already have a place for free will in our social system, and we need not look any further. It is the paradox raised by scientifically approaching the problem that we must also address.

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If you re-read your post carefully, you'll notice that the first paragraph simply says that there are questions that can be raised about the existence of free will, only, instead of God creating the paradox, it is science that does it today.

The second paragraph says that the problem of free will does not go away, whereas the third gives an example. The fourth paragraph says that the loss of free will entails the loss of individuality and meaning that we crave in life. The next paragraph says that a random system is no better than a deterministic one because we're still not the ones wielding control.

And...the final paragraph is where they actually bring in the need for 'finding a place for free will' in our world view. If you notice, there is no discussion on this topic, no opinions expressed on how it should be done, and no reservations expressed about how any change in our perspective would affect our lives. I am not entirely sure how the need is established either. What I glean from the previous paragraphs is (a) free will, as far as science is concerned, may or may not exist and (b) we want free will to exist

So, no, I am not inclined to argue on this issue.